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when is it enough?
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| honestly, how many shootings will it take for the city of Seattle to respond? I can't walk my kids to the library because of random shootings 2 weeks ago. I don't even think about taking my kids with me to the post office. the AM/PM is just a drug mart... is it plain and simple racism? | |
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| SPD is responding. They've just hired a bunch more officers for the East Precinct with more on the way. Limited resources explain much of what seems like a non-response. (In fact, our area receives special attention.) The gang unit staffing was greatly reduced several years ago, I've been told. Again, that is changing. | ||
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| well thanks for the words of hope. Frankly if crime is going down in the rest of Seattle it makes sense to give MUCH greater attention to our area where violent, gun crime is sky rocketing. | ||
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| At the last EPCPC meeting, Captain Paul McDonagh assured me that the police are doing everything they can to prevent gun violence in the CD and that it is their highest priority. He said that patrols have increased and the Gang Unit is specifically focussing on this area. Deputy Chief Clark Kimerer told me that the key to this problem is for the state to pass stricter gun laws, saying that this is a main priority for Chief R. Gil Kerlikowske that results in a lot of backlash and resistance from gun groups. But they both said that, as far as a priority, it can't get any higher. | ||
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I hope it isn't the owner who was shot. He told me just three days ago that he was moving to a new location because of stuff like this. He is a sweet guy and doesn't deserve this. That said, that corner is a haven for drug use and gang violence and needs to be addressed. |
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| yes, that was the owner, i worked with him when it was philly's best years ago for years! this is just terrible! | ||
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| Your article says that the 2000 shooting that resulted in the death of Philly's Best owner occurred at the restaurant. Not the case. See: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/133128_hacketshot31.html "Seattle police found Troy Hackett, co-owner of Philly's Best cheese steak shop, shot to death in a car near the intersection of East Fir Street and 19th Avenue, about nine blocks from his restaurant." | |
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| http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_013008WAB_cd_shooting_KS.7319259f.html | |
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| I saw that too and was just going to post it. Aside from this tragic event, kudos to this site for breaking this news faster than the local stations. Perhaps this will fuel more eyes and ears to report what's going in our area. | ||
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Who says you can't walk your kids to the library?
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| These big crime stories are the rare case. You can too walk your kids to the post office, convenience store, or library. It's how you teach your kids how to live in the city. Saying you can't us just giving up your sidewalks to the hustlers and junkies and thugs. Refuse to be afraid, refuse to be chased off your own streets. Own it. Walk it. Don't show your kids how to be afraid of the scary black men. | |
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RE: Who says you can't walk your kids to the library?
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| I agree with you. I have lived in the cd for 21 years. I have no fear walking my son to the library, AM/PM, Post Office, Thompsons, etc. I lived in this area when there were shootings every night and didn't live in fear then and sure will not do it now. I am a hard working individual, I will not live my life in fear nor will I allow my son to. He is a young black male and I want him to see the drug dealers, the crack heads, etc so he knows what he should not grow up to be. If I can expose him to the positive people he should be able to be exposed to the negative. The problem now a days is our children (well even adults) aren't well rounded. They are scared of everything due to lack of exposure. I apologize if this sounds like I am rambeling but I am sick and tired of hearing people talk about how sacred they are about this and that, the so called scary things are usually in the city, if its too sary then move. I know there is someone out there that respects the positives and negatives of the wonderful central district. | ||
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RE: Who says you can't walk your kids to the library?
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| I admire your courage and spirit, but IMO this actually does happen pretty routinely in the 23rd & union area. I live about 6 blocks away and hear gunshots at night at least once/month. In the ~6 months since Deano's closed we've had at least 5 shootings within a quarter-mile radius of 23rd & union | ||
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RE: Who says you can't walk your kids to the library?
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| I agree 100%, grew up in the CD in the 70's 80's and 90's, do have children, and don't let anyone dictate the when we can go nor the where we can go, this is OUR neighborhood. | ||
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| I've lived two blocks south of 23rd and Union for ten years, and have two kids, age 6 and 3. Over the years I've walked everywhere in this neighborhood with my kids in tow, including Philly's, maybe about every other month or so. I totally agree that we need to be out on the streets and own our neighborhood. But 2007 was the first time I've consciously started to avoid walking around 23rd and Union, after Chocolate City closed and all the action moved up here. I don't think we've walked over to Philly's for 8 or 10 months. Some will say that I shouldn't live in fear, but at some point it just isn't worth subjecting myself and my family to that stress. So all you folks that refuse to live in fear, am I going to see you out taking a leisurely stroll at 23rd and Union at midnight tonight? | ||
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| I hate to spread rumors, but word "from some guy on the sidewalk" is that the person shot at Phillies is deceased. Reportedly, it was the short one with the very short hair (don't know the name). This makes me very, very sad. I've had my fair share of sandwiches there and was excited to hear they were moving locations. | |
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Take any rumors with a grain of salt. They wheeled one man out of the store on a gurney and were giving him vigorous CPR into the ambulance. So for certain he was alive when he came out. I was gone before the second victim (who collapsed outside) was visible, though. |
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Today's shooting
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| Amid the horrid episode that took place this morning, I want to add my compliments to cdguy and this whole web site. I have learned to look here FIRST for news from our 'hood. They are right on it. And I see cdguy at almost every meeting I go to - thank you for keeping us informed! | |
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RE: Today's shooting
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| Thank Scott, he got all the info, pics and videos. Thanks for the nice comment. | ||
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Today's shooting
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| Wow! You have way more information on this site than the newspapers! LOVE THAT! I have added you to my favorites. Good job CdGuy. | |
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About: Who says you can't walk your kids to the library?
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Bullets can go a long way and can have truly tragic consequences, even for those nowhere near the shootings: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/153842_roberto24.html Mahmoud remains quadriplegic. |
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I'm not sure how to add photos to the story, so I'm posting links here. I was on-site during the police and medical response:![]() ![]() ![]()
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Gun laws
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| So what can I do to assist the Chief's efforts in getting stricter gun laws??? | |
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| I would recommend contacting our state representatives (37th District) and let them know how you feel. 1. Rep Sharon Tomiko Santos PO Box 40600 434A Legislative Building Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7944 2. Rep. Eric Pettigrew PO Box 40600 122H Legislative Bldg. Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7838. | ||
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| Better Gun Laws Now! NO MORE SELLING OF GUNS PLEASE | ||
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nice work
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| timely reporting, Scott and CDGuy. you guys rock (and roll). | |
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When does it stop?
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I wish we could say this was a surprise or a rare occurrence, but gunshots are still a common in this area. How do we change this? I was leading walks every Wednesday night and that felt good, but the cold weather and personal priorities had me stop that and I don't think they are still ongoing. Regardless, it didn't seem like enough to push this out. Can we do a weekly giant gathering of neighbors to hang out on the blocks of 23rd & Union instead? I can't help but think that most of the negative energy in the CD stems from this area. How would the dealers and gangs react if for a whole week (or however long it took) 100 people showed up and protested against violence and their presence every night? Anybody know if something like that has ever been attempted? |
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