posted 03/03/09 06:17 PM | updated 03/03/09 06:17 PM
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Death of the Seattle PI / Importance of CDN

I actually gave up on regularly reading newspapers even before the web, and so I might have predicted the end of industrial age newspapers a long time ago. But, in spite of that, now that it's actually happening--and happening locally with the Seattle PI, I can't say that I ever prepared to live in a city where one might not be able to find a couple different local papers offering serious coverage of the big stories.

So, what does this have to do with the Central District? Well, in some sense, the local newspapers haven't really had a ton of attention on local issues in our neighborhoods. And, that's part of the reason why the newspapers are dying out--the newspapers aren't primarily in the news business, they are in the business of delivering us (the public) to their audience: the advertisers. And, being treated like a product by the papers is not a priority for most of us.

But, on the other hand, the PI and Seattle Times have both employed journalists who have provided some serious coverage of issues that effect us. And, however one might complain about newspapers, we've got to worry about, e.g., what shenanigans go down at city hall if there's not a couple different journalists digging into those stories and bringing them to the public.

Fortunately, we have Central District News and the other neighborhood blogs / site around Seattle. I don't know that these websites can altogether replace what we might get from the PI, but they are part of it--and, in some very local ways, we already are getting a lot better information out of them.

Mike Davidson, who works at Newsvine (a news company with offices in the PI building) wrote some of his thoughts and observations in Last Rites. And, that made me want to post something here to CDN. I don't have any answers (though Mike has some ideas--which are worth looking into).

What do you think? Definitely curious to hear Scott's and CD Guys' and other folks from Neighborlogs thoughts as well.

Tags: newspaper, reporting
My .02 cents
Even though we're building a product that we believe will be a critical component to the future of news, I would not suggest that what we do here will ever be a replacement for a regional daily newspaper.

We've always considered neighborhood blogging to be about about a different slice of news that didn't previously get reported. Only people within a mile of 23rd & Union care about what might be built there. The Seattle PI would never have wanted to cover that any any depth because it's not of interest to the vast majority of their readers. Some lucky neighborhoods have had some of this handled by small print publications, but only on an infrequent schedule of publication and with a cost structure that no longer works.

First, there's a lot of reporting that would still happen here and at other blogs if we didn't have any daily papers:
- Politics, which is a naturally passionate topic for people, and one that is better told without the forcing a fake neutral point of view
- Crime and other emergent events, because they directly impact peoples lives and are actually very easy, if sometimes tiresome, to write about.
- Community events and organizations, because they usually have members who are invested in getting the word out about them, and the internet makes that easy.

Second, there's the content that newspapers should just forget about. National columnists and AP feeds should be jettisoned ASAP. People who want that can go straight to the source at the NYTimes or whoever else did the original reporting. Including it in a local paper just wastes space.

But there's a whole other... read more
Comment by scott
March 03, 2009
Good article
David Simon the former journalist and creator of the hbo show The Wire wrote a good piece on what the loss of journalism means in terms of policing the police, among other things.

You can find it here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02
Comment by Michael
March 03, 2009
Local Forum
Andrew pointed this out on the Miller blog:
http://millerparkseattle.blogspot.com/2009/02/no-news-is-bad

And I went to the site and watched a pretty good podcast of a panel on the future of journalism titled 'Seattle as a No Newspaper Town?':
http://www.nonewsisbadnews.org/

The sound quality leaves a lot to be desired, but it's pretty interesting,
Comment by kt
March 04, 2009
I Was Going to Say
that in the past many years we have come to a point of confusing journalism, 'news' and editorializing. Especially when we know that some persons of influence say what they are paid to say, excusing it with 'I'm just doing entertainment'. That's dangerous because we risk creating self fulfilling ignorance.

Do I think that newpapers are necessary? Not if everyone has access to the web. Kindles are an option but the subscription costs more than the paper version.

I also would like some aggregators for columnists that I like and national news instead of going to tons of sites. Guess I don't mind if a P-I web site has the AP stories.
Comment by kt
March 04, 2009
News Vs. Opinion/Blogs
I enjoy both the traditional news sites and neighborhood/niche blogs for different reasons.

Like Scott said, the blogs are fantastic for filling in those community and slice-of-life stories that even the best-staffed city newspaper would never write. What is of interest to a group of folks in one neighborhood may not matter at all to someone out in the suburbs - or even in the next neighborhood.

They are also great for breaking news. You look outside your window and seven cops are chasing a naked guy down the street, well, you've got yourself one heck of a story. Good on you.

Blogs are about community and you can definitely hear that in the posts. With regular posts, we get to know the bloggers - how many kids they have, what beer they drink, whether they are morning or night people, what area of the neighborhood they live in, where they go on vacation. And that is a double-edged sword.

When you inject yourself into a post ("I went down to the crime scene and talked with so-and-so" or "Billy Bob stopped me on the street the other day to tell me that his business was opening on blah, blah"), you become part of the story.

Sometimes I find that charming, especially when it is a personal post about something funny or scary or sad or whatever. It reminds me a lot of the local paper in my hometown, only bloggers have much, much better grammar - and more interesting things to write about.

Sometime I find that annoying, especially when I just want the facts of the story and someone is rambling on about himself.

Also when I come to one of the neighborhood blogs, I take what is published... read more
Comment by hildeborg
March 04, 2009
Read The Stranger for best local political coverage
I've felt they were head and shoulders above the big two's City Hall coverage.
Comment by mistamatic
March 04, 2009
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