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Clear?
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Did they just say the building was clear? Does that mean he wasn't in there or that they've caught him |
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| Must have mis-understood something sounds like it is still going on | ||
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Leschi - a great place to raise a family
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| We live 1/2 mile from this incident and a couple of blocks from the Halloween slaying. Tonight at 10pm, my 3-yr old came downstairs and asked me to sit in his room while he fell asleep because the helicopter noise was making him scared. Years ago wife and I bought a house in Leschi choosing it at my urging over other north-end neighborhoods because of what I saw as authentic diversity and cool grittiness. Now, after years of seeing worthless drug dealers wasting time on neighborhood corners, prostitutes doing tricks in parks, graffiti tagged playgrounds, drive by shooting scenes, and now a SWAT team standoff, it's hard for even an optimist to not give up on Leschi and the CD. | |
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then leave. the upscaling of leschi and the CD isn't making it safer. rich, white folks looking for a diverse experience are making it harder and harder for folks from here to live here. poverty is at the root of these issues, and fancy coffee shops and cupcake stands are driving up property values and making life harder. if you care, then learn about crime and poverty and check what you're doing to contribute to it. |
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Home layout
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| Per police scanner traffic, a neighbor is volunteering to describe the layout of the house. | |
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| Thank you so much for covering this situation from minute to minute. I have many friends living in the area that's being covered and am biting fingernails for everyone to stay safely in their homes. | |
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Still listening to the chopper
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| If it's clear, why is the helicopter still circling the area? Is it SPD, or a news station? | |
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BIG booms
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| We're over in Madrona less than a mi away from the house in question & just heard some REALLY big booms. | |
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Gunshots or explosion
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| Just heard short spurt of gunfire or explosion fr. direction of scene of siege. | |
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RE: Gunshots or explosion
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| I suppose Kaaren Andrews had something to do with this too???? Can't you find a way to tie this back to Madrona K-8. Come on Richard..... | ||
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not clear
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| Situation is NOT clear - that was another call down South. More flash bangs getting ready to go | |
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Helicopter
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| The helicopter is likely King County Sherriff's Guardian One. It may be monitoring in case a suspect attempts an escape. Or it may be trying to keep media helicopters from seeing/reporting too much. Probably some of both. | |
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Sounds like he's still in the house
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| SeattleCrime is reporting that negotiators are in contact with the suspect & are trying to coax him to surrender, but as of 1 am they hadn't been successful: http://tinyurl.com/y8n6uqu | |
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I've got to check this site more often
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There have been many times in the past year when stuff has been going on---sirens racing up or down Cherry, --- OK, now I hear sirens approaching.... |
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Re: still in the house
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| Hey "Madrona resident", there is no indication that he is still in the house or has responded or is "in contact"; in fact the overheard conversation from the negotiator suggests they have NOT heard from Mr. Clemmons. | |
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still in house
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| No need to use loudspeakers, sirens, etc. as reported on PI if they are in touch. seattlecrime indicates may have been contact earlier. The 1am reflects loudspeaker negotiation. | |
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chill
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| Chill dude (or dudette). Just linking to what I read ("Police were in contact with Clemmons through the evening and into the early morning hours." "Just after 1:00 a.m., negotiators contacted Clemmons and tried to coax him out of the home." etc). This stuff happening in all of our backyards (to say nothing of the tragedy earlier today that lead to it) is ugly enough without getting testy with each other, too. | |
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new source
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http://twitter.com/despeaux if real, it's a blow by blow account of what is going on down there |
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Scanner Traffic
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What would be awesome is for Scott to figure out a way to put his scanner online during events such as this one. That way, for those of us who recently moved to Pullman, don't have to listen to KOMO's online scanner, with it's city-wide coverage. Hint, hint. |
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The Buick?
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| Any word regarding the possible accomplice in a white, 1983 Buick LeSabre? | |
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20 minute deadline
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| Times headline indicating 20 min deadline given | |
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no more chopper
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| I Don't hear the helicopter anymore - after listening to it's circling for last hour. I'm two blocks from the stand-off. | |
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Tweets
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Conglomeration of multiple good tweeters: http://twitter.com/despeaux/seattlenews (Madrona, I love you!) |
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if officer gets killed
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| if officer gets killed, just like this incident, does the family get like a life time financial support from the government like monthly pension etc, such as monthly income of officer? ? I feel sorry for the family cuz all of them had children... does anyone know? | |
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if officer gets killed
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| if officer gets killed, just like this incident, does the family get like a life time financial support from the government like monthly pension etc, such as monthly income of officer? ? I feel sorry for the family cuz all of them had children... does anyone know? | |
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Ultimatum
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| Per Seattle Times: "Shortly before 2 a.m., police gave whoever was in the house an ultimatum to come out in 20 minute, but got no response in that time." | |
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Hi- go to this site for info: / Also, Despeaux's site is legit. |
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pop
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| I just heard a pop and its quiet here off yesler. Is it over? | |
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silence
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| Still no helicopters - did they pull them back for the duration of the 20 min ultimatum? We're out on the balcony but can only hear blessed silence. | |
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RE: silence
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| If it was your family member would the silence still be blessed. They are not doing it to bother you. | ||
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Standoff
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| Is there any confirmation that he is in the house? Correct me if I am wrong but I have not read or heard that contact has been established. | |
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moving in
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| Despeaux's composite tweets indicate moving in on trailer http://twitter.com/despeaux/seattlenews | |
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| Sorry Hi- search Concerns of Police Survivors, Inc. | |
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thanks AP
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| BTW - thanks to AP for the original twitter links! | |
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are you guys goin to sleep?
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| don't u guys have work tomorrow? go to bed now, everything will be in the news tomorrow. u don't wanna be tired .. hopefully they catch him and roads will re-open tomorrow. | |
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Helicopters going north to Leshi
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| In Mt Baker and helicopters flew north to Leshi | |
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i am working
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| a few miles off shore in gulf of mexico waiting while being off loaded to cargo carrier - then back up ship channel to port and home probably just as most people get off work | |
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Wow. It got quiet.
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| All sorts of information leading up to the reported 20 min deadline and SWAT reportedly moving in on the trailer but all has been quiet since. Is anyone here on scene or have been just repeating Twitter reports and scanner traffic? | |
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Time
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| Per Seattle Police radio traffic, discussion of possible timeline: some police involved believe it may last until 7:00 a.m., others are not sure. Of course no one knows. | |
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| (they are trying to get an idea for planning manpower as shifts change) | |
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sheriff briefing per tweets
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| per the despeaux composite tweets - "person of interest shot and may be deceased" | |
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McNerthney
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Latest info- http://twitter.com/mcnerthney |
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White Buick
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I don't know where the inquirer above got the year '83 on the Buick, but I notice what appears to be an early 90's white Buick on google maps street view at that intersection: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=,-95.677068&sspn=38.008397,90.263672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Seattle,+King,+Washington&ll=47.602767,-122.286268&spn=0.000996,0.002755&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=47.602765,-122.286136&panoid=uXYEUts3dymnwd_h862JBg&cbp=12,139.99,,0,13.68 "While police took tactical positions around the home, officers also scoured the neighborhood for a possible accomplice, who police say is driving an older model white Buick. The 20-year-old man police were looking for has several previous convictions for assault and driving without a license. His records also appear to indicate a prior drug charge." |
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The Buick
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Interesting find, tlc77. I got the year of the Buick and other information off the radio. Three times - i believe - dispatchers or officers made mention of a white, '83 Buick leSabre, license plate 540XVE (I may have misheard the plate; both 'v' and 'e' sounds similar to '3', each other, etc.). The possible accomplice was called out as Eddie Davis (sp?), a "very light-skinned black male" 6'3", 177 1-7-89. |
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Thanks Scott
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| for providing this thread. I'm badly missing home (Ballard) while here working and the info is priceless. It was with great glee that I followed this thread while watching the "major" media play catch-up. Gotta go as the offload begins in 5. THANKS AGAIN Scott. | |
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the car on street view is definitely not a lesabre
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| I am sure you heard right - interesting find nevertheless ... according to mcnerthney: "Troyer: People who helped suspect have been detained. Investigation led police to Leschi." That probably means Eddie Davis ... | |
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Ditto
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| Great job. The updates were awesome. | |
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Thanks
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| Thanks for the great reporting, guys! | |
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Thanks for being there
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| I have been following this story from Wales UK - very worried about friends that live in Leschi. Thanks to all for keeping us informed. Our prayers are with you and with the slain police officers | |
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Gunman
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| CNN just reported the police believe the suspected gunman is dead from his injuries! | |
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Thank you for the coverage
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| for this night and all the others | |
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@ get real fools
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Get out of here with your racist mouth. We've followed all night without your kind of filth on this excellent reporting. Find your rock and crawl back under it. Great Job everyone. Scott, et al. Nice work. Thanks. |
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Maybe you should get real
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| The lone acts of white individuals such as the unabomber, Timothy McVea or even Andrew Mickle who killed a police officer in Red Bluff California, do not reflect on the integrity of all white people, and this one has no bearing on the black community as a whole. Do you walk around (I am assuming you are white) carrying the guilt of all of the rapes and violence perpetuated by your ancestors, our ancestors, to conquer, dominate and oppress the people of this land and later slaves? Do you sit around telling yourself to get real? Well, posting crap like that, I suggest you get real fool! | |
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RE: no black should own a gun
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| So you're saying my black police officer husband shouldn't be able to carry? Go back to the south. I'm sure you can find some friends down there who will agree with you and the Jim Crowe laws. I suppose you also think blacks shouldn't be allowed to arrest whites? Funny how you racist types stay up all night waiting for everyone else to go to bed before posting your racist crap. | ||
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RE: SORRY the truth hurts
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| Lucky for all Asians out there, warped people like you will not define the entire diversity of their population. Maybe you should study some world, colonial and U.S. history ... throw in some science too since you seem to think that one race/ethnicity of people is greater or less than another. | ||
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RE: SORRY the truth hurts
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| Please just leave. Seriously! No one on this site is interested in you're so called "truth". We're interested in what's happening in this incident and relevant insights. If you REALLY feel the need to spout your unfortunate views in some online forum, go do so on the PI, KOMO or other sites where the "commments" quickly spiral into such mindless "debate" | ||
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what's happening now?
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wow this site is awesome! major sites--almost nothing. after about five hours of sleep, about to leave the house for work & still hear helicopters... is it safe to leave? thanks to all those who contributed on-the-ground observations! |
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Thanks, Scott.
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| Great coverage. | |
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Leschi School today?
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| Will Leschi School be closed today? | |
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Leschi school
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| Kiro7 just reported that Leschi *is* closed today. | |
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School closed
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| Appears that Leschi school is closed for today. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010388597_w | |
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Leschi School
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| They just announced on KIRO-TV that Leschi School is closed today. I live nearby...I'm still trying to figure out how to make my way out of the area so I can take my daughter to high school and myself to school. Hardly any sleep last night.... | |
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Trying for patience...
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| Nervous all night -- I don't like overreacting to these things, but you get concerned for your family's safety. Also frustrated not to know the current status beyond things I find here and on Twitter, but I know I'm not alone there. Anyone know the exact address of this thing? Good luck today, everyone. Thanks, Scott, for your reporting. Let's get together as a neighborhood and support each other. | |
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| yeah..how bout coming together and just talking for a while? this is heavy scary stuff and we need to support each other by listening and being there as a community; black, white, straight,gay, everyone. this is traumatic for so many people on so many levels. are we that busy that we can't put some time aside to talk? | ||
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Leschi standoff
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| I doubt there is any connection between this incident and Halloween. This suspect is related to a family who lives on Erie and apparently he went there for shelter. The family is out of the area and safe. Police advised other families to leave for safety. There seems to be no traffic on East Alder other than police cars so not sure we can leave. Kid needs to get to school (Garfield). Don't think that is going to happen. | |
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wading through the stupidty
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| and i didn't see anybody post what has been reported on komo, which is that the suspect was not in the house | |
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Leschi standoff
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| Got through the message line to a police person; advised not to leave house. Although the helicopter seems to have stopped, the standoff is still going on apparently. We can't go east and if we try to go west, we won't be able to get back home. I did hear shots and big booms in the night (between 2:25 amd 2:30 and again about 4:45. | |
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News Helicopters Concerns...
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| It might be noted that Francis Gary Powers, the U-2 pilot who was shot down and imprisoned by the USSR, died in an accident while flying a traffic 'copter' in Houston. Point being these folks do have accidents and having them over a crime scene is not necessary. | |
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Damage?
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| do any of you know what the policy is for reimbursement from police for damage to the house? | |
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| Property owners can file claims with the city. Covered it briefly in this previous Leschi story: http://www.centraldistrictnews.com/2009/07/23/leschi-murder- | ||
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| Thanks. I live in the house being searched right now, and from what I've heard its a complete wreck. | ||
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| posted last nite at Capt W - then signed up to vote on the ugly posts - just clarifying for all the great folks here - just heard possible sighting on Aurora (missed cross street) | |
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links for scanner and twitter updates
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tweets re: international district and blood found http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WAshooting online scanner - http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=2 |
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crime
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| I hope the SWAT were able to catch the culprit they were looking for. These criminals are too dangerous to society and have to be kept in a safe place where they cannot harm innocent people. | |