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| Just passing by the intersection on the #8, I saw a detective putting on a vest that said "Seattle Homicide." I'm sure we'll find out more from Scott and others on scene. I hope it's not an indication of the victim's condition. | |
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From the Seattle Times: . . .Details of the shooting were not available, however dispatch traffic indicated that at least one person was dead and that police were searching for a vehicle with gunshot damage. A supervisor at police dispatch said he did not know the condition of the officer. Dozens of officers were fanning out from the scene looking for the suspect vehicle, which was described as a white or grey Toyota. |
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| One person is confirmed dead but it's not necessarily the police officer. | |
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| Homicide detectives are typically called to the scene of any shooting. | |
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| ...that we need to specify that the officer was female. Seems if the officer is male we just use the term "officer." Sexism tends to creep into even the worst circumstances. My prayers to all involved. | |
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| Thank you for so clearly articulating what bothered me about this report. | ||
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| I thought they always identified shooting victims by gender, race, age, etc. | ||
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| Is there any indication that there are suspects on foot? | |
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| why are you focused on male or female stuff? The focus should be on what is going on. | |
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| I was so intensely focused that I noticed this. I believe I'm allowed to call it like I see it. Not criticizing Scott in particular, just making an observation. | ||
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| I hardly think this report is focused on gender. Thank you, Scott, for covering this story in such a timely manner on Halloween night. | |
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| It has been reported that the officer has passed. RIP | |
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The officer was killed. What a terrible night. |
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| What a tragedy for all involved. My heart goes out to the family of the officer. A Halloween nightmare come true. | |
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| I'm so sorry to hear about this. And shame on all of you who are acting like little Betty Friedman's. I have no doubt that female cops would be less offended at it being pointed out that they are female then trite whinning about some indirect sexism- WHEN ONE OF THEIR COLLEGUES IS DEAD!!!!!! | |
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| I heard gunshots about 10:00 from my home near 24th and E. Pike. At the time I hoped they were fireworks, which is quite frequent here - whichever it was, it was a volley of maybe seven rapid cracks. I suppose they may have been the shots apparently fired at 29th and Spring, before the 29th and Yesler part of the episode, per Scott's report above. | |
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it's Betty Friedan.
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| and I'm sure she would also have been incredibly saddened by the loss of life today, male or female. | |
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| Just pray for the family that lost a father tonight. | |
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| GOD BLESS EVERYONE that stands against evil for truth and justice. You don't pay cops to take accident reports and auto thefts. You pay them to stand against these evil criminals who will stop at nothing to get what they want and bring violence onto others. GOD BLESS THIS OFFICER who was attacked soley because of the uniform he wore, because of what it stood for. GOD BLESS THIS OFFICER AND THE FAMILY. | ||
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| Terrible. Anytime an officer is killed I.L.D. it's gut-wrenching. Condolences to her family and friends. The whole C.D. and the 23rd & Yesler in particular need A LOT more Police presence. I moved from the 29th & Dearborn area earlier this year after 2 robbery attempts at my house, 100's of drug deals from a nearby house, and nightly car prowlers. Don't get me wrong, I love the area, but it needs some serious cleaning up. | |
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| Please pray for this officer's family, friends, and colleagues and appreciate the work that they do each and every day. Hug your loved ones, too. | |
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| My family and I moved from 30th and Yesler last year to the east side. No, I did not want to move, had lived in Seattle for 23 years and still work downtown. That said, good ridence to the vermin that troll the streets around the terrible tragedy. All I can hope for is to read that they perish in the same tragic way this heroic officer did. Sorry if that's harsh but, no mercy. | |
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Thank you, Scott
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| For staying with the story and keeping the blog updated. My heart goes out to the officer's family. May she rest in peace and her family find some solace in that she died in service. | |
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Yes, thanks Scott
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| For keeping us updated. I'm horrified almost beyond belief. I was just finishing up our annual haunted house at yesler and fir when I heard the shots. Is this what the CD has become? The place where Seattle police officers are killed? | |
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Is this what the CD has become? You must be new around here. It's safer than it's been in a long time |
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Unfortunately, police officers are killed in all sorts of places, and fairly frequently. I grew up in a quaint little town in Iowa, and one of our officers was shot and killed while patrolling a railroad siding by a grain elevator. My dad had gone to school with him, so we knew the family fairly well. I don't think they ever really recovered from the loss. Strangely enough, I don't think they ever found the killer. Police work is some of the most difficult work there is - they not only put their lives on the line, they also deal with the most ugly parts of human nature each and every day, and that can affect them in many ways. Sadly, we don't pay much attention until something like this happens, or some kind of abuse bubbles to the surface. |
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| Thank you for your coverage. Yours has been the best all night long, and your efforts are appreciated. RIP to the fallen officer, and courage to his fellow officers. | |
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| Why isn't anyone asking where the gun came from and why this happened? If guns were not so readily available this kind of tragedy would not happen. | |
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Susan, the reason no one (except you) is asking where the gun came from is because their concern is where it should be - with the fallen officer and his family, as well as SPD as a whole. You, on the other hand, are selfishly concerned with promoting your anti-gun agenda. The murderer who perpetrated this act most likely didn't obtain the firearm legally and would have gotten one anyway. And while you're banning guns, Susan, why don't you ban alcohol because of drunk drivers and matches because of forest fires. Please. This tragedy happened because someone was trying to bump up their rep at the life and expense of a dedicated police veteran. The killing of a police officer in the line of duty should be an automatic death penalty case. I only hope the person who assassinated this officer finds justice. |
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karl popov, unfortunately we live in a society that values the right to possess a firearm more than human life. Why shouldn't Susan ask where this murderer got his gun? Perhaps he got it from an unlicensed dealer at a gun show. Perhaps he bought it from a friend without a background check. Maybe he stole it from his neighbor's house. The sad fact is that it is easy for anyone in this country to get a gun. Our laws are designed to punish those who commit crimes with guns. We have no effective measures to prevent stop criminals from getting guns in the first place. Even well trained, well armed officers with bullet proof vests are no match for a lunatic with a gun. Guns are different than alcohol and matches. Guns are designed to do only one thing - kill. They have absolutely no other value to our society. So the more guns we have the more deaths will result whether they be homicides, suicides or accidents. Now you will probably reply by saying that guns don't kill people, people kill people. Well more often than not people do kill people - using guns. I'm so tired of watching the NRA protecting the ability of people to kill each other with ease. We should make it as difficult as possible for people to do harm to one another. We have an arms race in this country and the bad guys are winning because they will always be willing to shoot first. So we have two choices - force everyone to carry a gun and then shoot it out with the bad guys in the streets or disarm. It's time to lay your weapons down. |
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U beat all the big guys, with the actual information/timeline by canvassing the area, grabing tips (even shakey ones), and Not waiting for the "official" no comment press brief 10hrs later. Good work.. |
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Seattle has lost one of his/her finest. I hope we fight for justice for the sake of the officer, the family, and Seattle. I salute you, brave Officer of Peace That on this night your life should cease. Cowardly act of violence unleached From the heart of an evil beast. Your life of valor we do believe, Shall shine through the night while we grieve, To your life of courage we still cleave, Noble spirit, angels receive. |
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| First of all my condolences to all SPD Officers and the residents of the Central District. Secondly, the coverage by the Central District news has been tiers above the larger news sources! Third, gun control arguments are for next week, not now. Today is for grief, pain and coming together to help each other. | |
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some thugs pull up RIGHT NEXT to a pair of officers an OPEN FIRE?! FIND THEM. PUNISH TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. if they're involved in a gang, FIND THE GANG MEMBERS AND DO THE SAME. Seattle has let itself get overrun with this SCUM. time to take out the trash. neighborhood watches should be MANDATORY for ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. TAKE BACK THIS CITY. let these wastes of carbon find out first hand that the people of Seattle are not going to take it anymore. my thoughts and prayers go out to this officer's family. honor him by ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING to solve the PROBLEM that CAUSED HIS UNFAIR DEATH. |
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"TAKE BACK THIS CITY." I think we already did that, hon. I'm sure your armchair bravado will be appreciated by one and all, though. Next? Crime Rate in Seattle in 2008: down 4% from 2007. This followed a large decline in crime in 2007 that saw the crime rate fall to a forty year low. |
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I wonder if this has anything to do with the recent La Familia crackdown....
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That's it. It's time we put an end to this absolute disregard for humanity. Find these people and kill them. Public execution is the only way. The subject of where the guns came from: Who cares. There will ALWAYS be guns, take them away from sale legally and only illegal guns will be out there; there will be plenty. Shoot a cop: you die. No self defense claim, no insanity claim, just death. I've had it. It's time the tables turn. |
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"I've had it." This tragedy is not a time for your to engage in exhibitionist machismo. The way you talk "I've had it!" "The last straw!" makes it sound like this is Gotham City. As noted above, this is the first Seattle officer gunfire fatality in 15 years. That event 15 years ago really pushed you to the edge and you've been stewing and commiserating the last decade and a half and now you've just "had it" and this is "the last straw"? Gimmea break. |
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| If we find them and kill them, then are we not just doing exactly what they did ??? We all need to take a good long look at why people in this country have lost all regard for humanity.. what has happened... what can we do to fix this problem... time to quit saving banks and motor companies and start saving our schools and our children. Mom and Dad have to work to just keep a roof over their heads and gangs are raising our children and then prison and the state are keeping them locked away when they became what we hoped they never would !! | |
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| Nope. We need to make it a hard rule: You kill someone intentionally, you die. That's it. Enough of the coddling of criminals. (and homeless for that matter, but that's another story) We have done it your way and this is what it gets us. It's time to try another tactic; harsh reality, tough love, teaching accountability for one's actions.....whatever you want to call it. | ||
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| We are taking a hard look. The officer is taking a hard look at NOTHING BECAUSE HE IS IN A ZIPPERED BAG!!!!! Yes, we are doing what they did and that seems like the only language they understand. It's like a dog or cat and trying to reason with them, they don't understand; you have to rub their nose in it. | |
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| Can't you see that the attitude you're expressing is exactly what leads to a culture where this kind of stuff happens in the first place?! Public executions? You would do well with the Taliban | |
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| And can't you see that your attitude of complacency and acceptance is what has gotten us to where society is now? Wow. | ||
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| Where do you get the idea that there is complacency and acceptance ??? I think this is sad, pathetic and plain disgusting... my husband was a police officer.. I lived with the terror in my heart every day...but going out and acting like these people do, does not resolve the issue, it will just result in more officers and good people falling victim to them. The ways we have tried to "fix" these problems do not work... becoming like they are will not work... we need to make our communities more family friendly and take care of our children so they do not grow up and think behaviour like this is acceptable. | ||
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What a terrible thing to happen. Seems really unlikely that it was just a random "hey, let's kill a cop right now for something to do" type of thing but who knows. Terrible..but do we have to be stupid? "That's it. It's time we put an end to this absolute disregard for humanity. Find these people and kill them. Public execution is the only way." You've had it with the absolute disregard for humanity and your answer is murder? Normally, it would call for a hearty LOL but in context of recent events its just sad and pathetic. |
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| Nope, it's not the 15 years ago that started it, it was 1986 when the City council decided to make Seattle a "safe Haven" for criminals and illegal immigrants. It was when Richard Conlin was elected to the seat we hope to throw his sorry butt out of this election. It was when all the rest of the liberals flocked to this city from California. We'll get our city back. We have our secret societies that we use to promote our agenda. We will prevail over these hoods. | |
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"We'll get our city back. We have our secret societies that we use to promote our agenda." here comes the lunatic patrol! |
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Thank you Zan-O -- time to leave this one to the nutbags The following from "This must stop" is a true classic line -- one of the most ludicrous I've seen (ever) "It's time we put an end to this absolute disregard for humanity. Find these people and kill them. Public execution is the only way" Public execution would truly be a unique way way to show our regard for humanity... should we torture them for a few hours first? Reminds me why I don't usually read the comments. Heartfelt condolences to the officers' families |
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This state actually trains and commissions "Peace Officers" ... not police officers. Something to think about. I know this because I am one, and have been for a while now. I'm a "veteran officer" like the murdered officer we speak about. The raw emotion of wanting vengeance is one I understand, believe me, I've been there too many times. Truly solving this problem is only going to happen if we understand why it happened. I pray that my brother is at peace, and to honor his memory I will continue to be "an instrument of peace" in this country. Yes, I have the capacity for extreme violence if need be ... I have used it to protect in the past and will not hesitate to use it again if the situation warrants, but I will not dishonor my brother by lashing out recklessly in the very manner he chose to protect us from. The key, ladies and gentlemen, is to be a good role model. Model the behavior you want the youth to engage in. Be kind, gentle and caring to one another. Be a leader in your community and don't be afraid to stand for what's right. In this dark hour, add your light to the faithful and HONOR this fallen brother of mine so that we may have this be the last time I wear a band across my badge. Rest in peace. |
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| your condescension is appreciated by no one. stop talking down to people like they are being "too macho" or "pro-action" for your taste. it's nice that you think everything is just peachy. okay, an OFFICER hasn't been gunned down in a while...how many GANG RELATED VIOLENT CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED IN THE LAST YEAR? before you give YET ANOTHER condescending "calm down, savage" comment, you need to know that ANY NUMBER is TOO MANY. if you think things are just fine and that even something like a NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH is too much action, then you have become lazy and complacent and i hope NOBODY around where you live ever needs to count on you for help...since you don't seem to want to be bothered. i know i'll get another smart comeback from you, but all that will do is show that i'm right. i'm not saying "kill them all" like some are on this forum, but "DO SOMETHING AS A NEIGHBORHOOD" should not be met with smarmy condescension. next time you see a bunch of graffiti that is obviously gang tagging, i want you to say to yourself ten times: "We've already taken this city back." | |
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First - condolences to the officers' family and colleagues and hope that the perpetrators are arrested. Second - to the predictably boorish ... your condescension is appreciated by no one actually, per the comments, it was appreciated by a few folks ... how many GANG RELATED VIOLENT CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED IN THE LAST YEAR well, according to SPD statistics, violent crime is at its lowest rate in 40 years and just dropped another 4% i hope NOBODY around where you live ever needs to count on you for help...since you don't seem to want to be bothered if "help" = get on a message board and parade around my faux bravado, thump my chest and roar like a lion, that is true - I can't be bothered; if "help" = render assistance, I'm happy to do that i know i'll get another smart comeback from you, but all that will do is show that i'm right hehe, don't count on that, punk'in ... now come over here, plop yourself down on mommy's lap and gimme a big ol' kiss |
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The following from "This must stop" is a true classic line -- one of the most ludicrous I've seen (ever) papadon- you should read the comments in the seattletimes.com sometime in response to a report of a crime - any crime - they're very predictable and usually go something like this: headline: "Teens Arrested for Shoplifting Gum" comments: "THEY MADE THEIR CHOICE! TIME TO CLEAR THE STREETS OF THESE PUNKS! WE NEED TO BRING BACK PUBLIC FLOGGINGS!" headline: "Grandma Cited for Jaywalking" comments: "SHE NEEDS TO LEARN SHE IS *NOT* ABOVE THE LAW! LOCK HER UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY! IT'S TIME WE START CLEANING UP THIS TOWN! CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL!" It only follows when a truly serious crime occurs, such as this one, a real tragedy, that they would work themselves up to imagining all sorts of machiavelien torments and tortures to inflict on the guilty. They're some real sickos; people like 'This Must Stop' are consumed by a dangerous level of penis envy that is a ticking time bomb. Folks like him are probably as big a threat to public safety as the occasional street hooligan. As a card-carrying member of the 2nd Amendment Foundation I seriously hope (I noticed he made a pro-firearms statement in one of his rants) people don't think that vocal gang of 3 is typical of the overwhelming majority of responsible firearms owners. |
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thanks for proving me right. if you think i'm "beating my chest" then it's you who's the one with the armchair smugness. it's easy to sit there and smugly call people out for their opinions, it's called trolling and you're doing a great job at it. nobody said anything about how "right you are," Zan-o. you're reaching, and it's adorable. it's what trolls do when they don't have a real argument. you didn't address the real issues that i raised in my post, which, again, points out how you have no real argument. OH, and just to throw one final nail out there for the coffin of your argument: "Also unlike 2007, crime did not decline throughout the city last year."; "The concerning trend seen in 2008, however, was the outbreak of violence by and against young people. Early in the year, a young man was murdered at a private party..." (that's from the SPD website. you decided to go ahead and use "crime" and "violent crime" statistics from a couple years ago interchangeably. wow, how wrong you turned out to be...if you only did one quick google search you wouldn't have been made to look so foolish.) again, a call for neighborhood residents to look out for one another shouldn't be met with smarmy, condescending comments. ouch. |
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Rather than letting things get to the point where contributors here simply continue to attack one another, I'd like to propose a truce. Can we please have some mutually respectful dialogue as we remember what happened last night? You're both angry ... so am I and most of us here. Instead of taking it out on each other, why not do something ... anything ... to make things better. Having lived in several foreign countries in my younger days while working for Uncle Sam, I feel qualified to say that we enjoy the priviledge of living in a great nation with freedoms that have been won through difficult struggles. Try to set the hostility aside for a while and see if the anger you're feeling can be the catalyst for something ultimately good. I don't have the answer, but I do know that even the toughest gang can be defeated by a group of citizens who have decided to work together to improve the quality of life in their neighborhood. Disagree, but get along ... in the end we really only have each other. And yes ... Brit is a hero as far as I'm concerned. |
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you didn't address the real issues that i raised in my post, which, again, points out how you have no real argument. A bit of a sophistry, non? This supposes you raised issues. All I saw was someone stomping around yelling "RARRR RARRR RARRR - I'M AN INTERNET HERO! PUBLIC EXECUTIONS!" I didn't have time to read the rest of your speech, sweetie, but if you wanna bullet-point it I'll give it the once over. Toodles - |
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| so much posturing and chest pounding. An officer lost his life, it's sad all around, something I haven't seen much of in the 59 comments is the assumption that the perps came from different gang turf or not even the CD, say perhaps the southend, or Tacoma. The hoovers and other worthless gangbangers are pretty brazen as we have learned. Let's honor the fallen and respect what he did for us, by just sitting in his car training a younger officer. The evil perps will get theirs, we can only hope, for now stop the silliness and give some respect. please. | |
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and their property abated now Who knows what that means but one can only assume the reference is to civil forfeiture, which should be avoided at all costs in a just and libertine society and must be stopped and curtailed in the United States. The right of every person to own property is severely derogated by civil forfeiture. It is an affront to freedom of lawful trade and commercial intercourse. |
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How is it, in Seattle, that people cannot even discipline themselves to join with dignity in a moment of mature regret and respectful sadness over a hideous summary execution? How is it that comments aren't of the "What can we do about this? How can we be helpful/supportive? Where are the needs the keenest, and how can I contribute in our neighborhood?" How is it that instead, in this, the nation's supposedly most literate and reading and book-loving city, people immediately start sounding reckless, cruel, immature, mean, and indifference, digressing from the moment we face, intellectualizing and analysing and striking out and grinding their personal woodcutting tools? Wait. I just answered my own question. |
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"...how can I contribute in our neighborhood?" when i suggested THAT VERY THING. someone on this board attacked me, saying the same thing over and over. community/neighborhood watches are a GREAT way to help support the people in a neighborhood. Zan-NO, find the place where i said "PUBLIC EXECUTIONS!"...oh, wait, you can't, 'cause i didn't. in fact, i DID say this: "i'm not saying "kill them all" like some are on this forum..." (see, i can copy things from other posts and use them to my advantage too! i just have a point when i do.) and you just go on with your bad self about the "chest thumping." i'd rather be accused of that rather than the smug (for what reason i have no idea, you've made NO real valid argument against my points, but i've sure destroyed a bunch of yours.) passive-aggressive attacks you like to dish out. you are very obviously an incredibly rude and disrespectful troll do be doing what you're doing on a forum about a slain officer, so i'm done with you. i can't express myself monosyllabically enough for you follow as evidenced in your rude response, "I didn't have time to read the rest of your speech, sweetie, but if you wanna bullet-point it I'll give it the once over." (how condescending and rude can one person really be? you're like a child.) i'm actually glad that you posted everything that you have, now everyone knows to not address you. sad. |
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I'm a 10,000-word underdog, looney-tune. Zan-NO, find the place where i said You're assigning to me much more interest in your posts than actually exists ... |
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Zan-O and Senseless, I hope both of you live and work alone as I feel sorry for anyone who has to regularly communicate with you. It's all pots and kettles at this point. And for the record, all of this talk about gangs is nothing more than assumptions. At this point there has been no correlation between gangs and this particular crime. When the police say they are classifying this as a gang related crime then bring the forum dogs out. Until then please keep them in your lovely manicured yards. |
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i'm done with the back and forth, it is just pot and kettle at this point. however, i did start out by suggesting that the community should DO something, that's not worthy of scorn. i stand by my comment. that's true, there's no gang connection, yet. it does seem like a gang stunt, though. supposedly, there were two people in the car, that doesn't sound like a random guy who just lost it and decided to take out some cops. two people mean it probably was thought out to some extent. all i said in my earliest posts was that if this crime IS gang related they need to punish the ciminals to the fullest extent of the law, (in WA that doesn't mean KILL, for those of you who like to assume things) and they need to find out how to get to the gang as well. that's just common sense. i suggested honoring this fallen officer by doing something proactive that would help prevent something like this. why i was called out for it, i have no idea. again, my thoughts and prayers go out to this officers' family. |
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however, i did start out by suggesting that the community should DO something, that's not worthy of scorn. I think, before that, you said things were totally out of control and the world was about to explode. At which point me and others pointed out that, while this occurrence is a tragedy, the Chicken Little routine is pretty offensive as well. We need heartfelt condolences, not the resident lunatic running in, breaking wind and screaming like a madman. That was my only issue with you, sweet ass. Thanks honey, - Z |
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"I think, before that, you said things were totally out of control and the world was about to explode." -prove that. the most outragous thing i said was "find the criminals and punish them." i then went on to say "a community watch (something to HELP the community) should be mandatory." that might sound a bit strong, but all it is is a call to actually do something productive. you are still attacking me for that. your conduct on this forum is inexcusable. saying "we need heartfelt condolences" doesn't excuse your behavior, you are not in the right. "the Chicken Little routine is pretty offensive as well." -again, you're making what i said and making it sound MUCH worse than it is. ironic, since you're the one claiming i'm doing the "chicken little routine." "We need heartfelt condolences, not the resident lunatic running in, breaking wind and screaming like a madman. That was my only issue with you, sweet ass. Thanks honey," -again, your childish tactics only show how little you really have to say. you've said the same, or similar, things about me almost every post, nevermind the fact that i've proven everything you've said about me to be either 1. false, or 2. exagerated to make you sound...smart? (don't know what you were going for.) please stop using this forum to attack people. i can't believe the admin hasn't blocked you yet, or that nobody else has called you out. maybe i should take a cue from the rest of the people on here and just pay you no mind. yeah. good idea. |
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Sweetie, I'm not attacking anyone, just the resident trolls like you. You and your assorted other userids under which you're posting have noted: Seattle has let itself get overrun with this SCUM. diagnosis: Chicken Little syndrome ('the sky is falling!') time to take out the trash. diagnosis: Lion of the Internet syndrome ('hasta la vista, bey-be') neighborhood watches should be MANDATORY for ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. municipal conscription into a surveillance apparatus? hmmmm ... that would be ... diagnosis: Lunatic of the Internet syndrome ('woogedy woogedy wooo!') TAKE BACK THIS CITY. diagnosis: Chicken Little syndrome let these wastes of carbon find out first hand diagnosis: Lion of the Internet syndrome that the people of Seattle are not going to take it anymore diagnosis: Chicken Little syndrome Find these people and kill them. Public execution is the only way. diagnosis: Lunatic of the Internet syndrome Shoot a cop: you die. No self defense claim, no insanity claim, just death. diagnosis: Lion of the Internet syndrome I've had it. It's time the tables turn. diagnosis: Chicken Little syndrome time for a SERIOUS crackdown diagnosis: Chicken Little syndrome |
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ZAN-NO, this is the last time i'll post to prove you wrong and to clear the air. my original post said this: "if they're involved in a gang, FIND THE GANG MEMBERS AND DO THE SAME. Seattle has let itself get overrun with this SCUM. time to take out the trash. neighborhood watches should be MANDATORY for ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. TAKE BACK THIS CITY. let these wastes of carbon find out first hand that the people of Seattle are not going to take it anymore." -in context it makes perfect sense, even if it is a little strongly worded. broken up into nice little fragments it STILL doesn't sound as bad as you like to try to paint it. a neighborhood watch is a GOOD thing, if you're against it, don't bother joining. it's for the good of the community, but you're making it sound like i'm saying we should all buy in to big brother watching over our shoulder. (again, who REALLY is the "sky is falling" person here? hint: it's not me.) also, i go back to another of my statements, that if you think there are not too many gangs that have been left to just kind of do their thing in Seattle, remember that next time you pass by a tagged building. (it won't be too long before that happens) you have no right to call me a troll. YOU are the one attacking ME. YOU are the troll. and THIS whole thing is done after i make this last point. I will say this again: I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT KILLING ANYONE. I just want the people of Seattle to take a stand against crime and you attacked me for it. i said neighborhood watches should be mandatory and you treated me like i was suggesting roaming the streets in packs with clubs. this is done. you are a bad person. "This has to be the last straw by This must stop 1 day ago (4 votes) (report abuse) (reply) That's it. It's time we put an end to this absolute disregard for humanity. Find these people and kill them. Public execution is the only way." -as you can see it was written by SOMEONE ELSE. nice tactic, slipping that in among the loosely interpreted other things i said. let that one sink in, muffin. that is all. |
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Troll: Once again, didn't have time to read your speech but - if you'd like to bullet-point will be happy to give it a glance. Ta, Z1 |
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if you TRUELY believe that i've been posting under several different userids, you can go ahead and write to the admin to check on that. they can see who writes in through ppo's. (and please, no comments about "not worth my time, sweetie." just know that i have nothing to hide and you can check my truthfulness) i guarantee that i've used ONLY this id the entire time. you seem pretty familiar with that trick, though. *to all other posters on this site, my apologies for all of the unwanted unpleasantness. please know i'm not an angry person who like to troll for fights online, i was merely defending myself from one. again, my apologies. |
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ou can go ahead and write to the admin to check on I really don't have that level of interest to engage an obviously angry, and clearly rather off-kilter, troll any further. Please carry-on with your shenanigans elsewhere. |
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