Design Review Tonight for 23rd and Union

aside from andrew's blog (note Joe's comments about Jim Mueller), but take a look at his Vulcan work. That's not cheap and poorly done. It's in the very same mode as what is being proposed here.

Anna, the additional traffic and cars parked on 22nd would most likely make 22nd safer because there wouldn't be as many cars traveling so fast down the street. There would be more cars, but they would move much more slowly. It's been shown that people drive more slowly when there the road is more narrow (e.g. when cars are parked on both sides) and there are obstacles like cars coming the other way. People tend to fly down streets when they are empty, and that's when they present the most danger to kids.

I also live on 22nd, and I can say that the narrow lane and parking on both sides does little to deter some people from zooming down the street at high speeds. I've seen this at 1 PM when the street is relatively empty (while people are at work), and I've seen it at 1 AM when both sides of the street are packed with cars. Around 5-6 PM is the worst as people are in a hurry to get home and try to avoid congestion at 23rd and Union. Furthermore, I can corroborate that "many kids" on this block is not hyperbole.

From what I understand, the parking garage entrance for the new development is supposed to exit into 22nd Ave. Although the up to 99 residents of the proposed development may not all have cars, or may not all use 22nd Ave South of Union to travel to/from home if they do, there is bound to be an increase in traffic on 22nd.

The lack of a traffic circle in the middle one the 22nd and Marion intersection is one factor; the ingress/egress route at 22nd and Union is the other factor. Combined, these leave an unbroken two block stretch of road that parallels and offers an alternative to 23rd ave. A traffic circle at Marion would slow people down at that end of the block, but would not prevent anyone from shooting at high speed off of Union. In my opinion, the only solution would be a road constriction just South of the entrance to the Foster center parking lot -- similar to the one on 19th just South of Union. It might take away a couple of street spots, but should give pause to our speed racers.

As another resident of 22nd, I fear that "uncertainty" does not seem to inhibit many of the drivers that are abusing this street as an alternative to the main. I've had several instances of driving, forced chicken, where I was looking to find a place to allow someone by - when they were obviously going to hit me if I didn't get out of the way! As a ped I feel the same... I'll walk slowly into the street. But many times it's obvious if _I_ don't wait to cross or move, _they_ are going to win.

They also did Planned Parenthood on Madison, and Miller Community Center.

Yes, the architect said they would be rental apartments